Pandora wrote:
Maura, good samaritan laws do not extend to assault cases. If you see someone being assaulted, and get involved in the fight, you are held liable for WHATEVER you do from that point on.

And loosecannon, hate to tell you this, but assault IS a crime, which makes the assaulter a criminal. The fact that they are attacking someone in a public place, which it would have to be if other people are freely able to see and get involved, that doesn't speak to their self-control or their anger management at all. And if it's the second or third offense, that DOES make them a long-time criminal. Not to mention, even if an assault is planned, that STILL doesn't speak to their self-control or anger management. Why would they assult someone if they had either? Usually if assaults are planned (drive-by's, ambushes, etc.) it's for either revenge, they want to take something from that person (which is highly impulsive) or pure hate-crime.

A friend of mine can personally attest to the truth of this article. He was assaulted and had his head cracked on two sides by people who were trying to rob him. He survived, and what he said when he was telling me about it was, "You THINK that if you're being assaulted, you'll go all nuts and kick their Edward, but no. You don't see it coming and YOU are the one who's Edward will get kicked. Trust me. I thought the same thing until I was on the ground bleeding from my head and they were trying to take my wallet."

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Biggs1.html

The Good Samaritan, under most of the duty to aid statutes discussed in this article, would have been required to at least notify law enforcement unless he knew the police had been called by someone else. If he could have aided the [Page 246] victim, he would have had a duty to come to the "assistance" of the victim. The term assistance is ambiguous. On the lowest level, assistance might involve simply helping the victim up from the sidewalk. A similar level of assistance might involve yelling "stop thief!" A slightly higher level of assistance would include following the thief at a distance, while a high level might require running after the perpetrator and tackling him.

Good Samaritan Laws, combined with duty to aid laws, can apply to "assault" cases.

However, isn't that slightly irrelevent? I mean, when you see someone who needs aid from assault and have the ability to help the person, with reasonable force, would you really decline because it might possibly get you charged for assault? Are you really going to weigh getting charged with assault over possibly saving someone's life?
Especially since you could easily plead self-defense(defense of others) and you could simply use reasonable force.

If so, to each his own. However, I consider myself more altruistic than that. Even if it puts me at risk with "assault", if I'm saving someone's life or saving them from further serious injuries, I'm going to be willing to help out if I can. It'd be a moral obligation for me.

Also, sounds like you and the article are making social psychologies Fundamental Attribution Error.

the fundamental attribution error (also known as correspondence bias or attribution effect) describes the tendency to over-value dispositional or personality-based explanations for the observed behaviors of others while under-valuing situational explanations for those behaviors.

Hypothetically, if someone pissed me off pass the breaking point enough that I decided to beat them up in a public place, after lets say years/months of bullying, does that mean I don't have good self-control?
No, it means it broke at that point.
Does that mean I have anger management problems? No, it means I temporarily lost control of my anger.
Which would mean that I don't necessarily know how to fight, through years of experience as the article claimed.
Again, please understand the importance of the fact that criminal behavior may not be due to those traits, but due to the situations.

Furthermore, when I say longtime criminal, I specifically mean a criminal who has been committing crimes for a long time. It could be 3 crimes, that I committed just in the last week. That DOESN'T make me a longtime criminal, if I just started a week ago. Even if it did, it means that I don't necessarily know how to kick Edward.

If the assault was planned, then how does that not speak to their self-control? That they could hold back the urge to do what they wanted to do prior, to a benifical time, like in a back alley or so. That doesn't mean they're relying on impulses, it means they're being smarter. It does speak to their self-control - it says they have a reasonable agree compared to the general criminals that do crimes on a whim. Also, it doesn't speak to their angermanagement in the sense the Cracked.com Article said.
It argued that criminals with angermanagement problems get in constant fights and thus develope experience. If a criminal can manage their anger enough that they aren't getting into fights so easily and impulsively, than that doesn't mean that they have a signficant amount of prior experience fighting.

Last, I'd like to conclude that your friend's quote does not attest to the truth of the article.
Assuming this "truth" you're referring to is that Criminals can fight good and kick Edward
1. Your friend was doubleteamed. The criminals had your friend outnumbered. Unless you're a naturally great fighter who's good at using your environment or a trained fighter, the chances of you being able to take on 2 criminals attacking you at once is slim. It doesn't mean the criminals fight good and kick Edward, it means they had more man power.
2. The two criminals ambushed him. Since apparently he "didn't see it coming", that means that he was ambushed. Simply put, any one person could kick another person's Edward if he ambushes him. If you're 5'4 and you come up behind a 6'1 muscular man with a bat, and you just swing hard at his head, you can get the jump on him and then kick his Edward. More so, if it's two people doing the ambush. Does that mean that the ambusher is a badass fighting machine with loads of experience? No.

None of this attests that criminals must be able to fight good, as the article indicates.

Pandora wrote:Call the police. Why?

Because if you get involved, you run the risk of getting your Edward kicked too, and you also run the risk of ALSO getting charged with assault. Yes, the attacker is the inital person commiting that crime, however, unless you have absolute proof, your Edward could get nailed too. You don't solve assault with more assault.

Also, this is from cracked.com's list of ten things they didn't teach you in school. This may be a comedy site, but this piece of information there is important because it's TRUE.

Oh, there are guys out there capable of kicking Edward. They're called criminals. They're good at fighting because they have poor impulse control and anger management, and thus are constantly getting into fights. If you, on the other hand, are going to be civilized and successful parents and homeowners and taxpayers, the odds are overwhelming you will not ever be good at fighting. This fact is thus reflected in our curriculum.
Chapters Include:

I. Why Your Wallet is Not Worth Dying For;
II. Why Guns and Knives Are Not Awesome (Includes Visual Aids Depicting Wounds of Gnarled Strips of Exposed Fat, Tendons and Skin, Plus Graphic Descriptions of Life in a Wheelchair);
III. How to Break Off an Argument With a Hobo Before He Stabs You;
IV. Why You Can't Reason With a Screaming Drunk;
V. Why Believing Action Movies Are Real Will Get You Killed;
VI. How to Tell When That Guy Walking Toward You is Concealing a Weapon.

You can carry whatever you want with you, but chances are, you WILL GET YOUR Edward KICKED.

This. I'm pretty scrawny, so I'll phone the police from a safe distance away.

The answer is quite simple, get the attention of a crowd. One person might get their Edward kicked, no doubting that but 10 vs 1 doesn't look so good, so I'd do a simple "This guy's getting mugged!!!" (from a distance) and I should be good . Then call the police once the attacker isn't going anywhere.

This will work very well in my country because the second there is a fight, there will be a crowd and if it's' serious assault the attacker is getting absolutely nowhere.

I'm 5'2 and 80 pounds, with no means of self defense. Gettig physical wouldn't be the best option for me.
I'd get help from someone else or call the police.

I honestly don't know how I'd react if I was the one being assaulted. I've been in self-defense classes that have covered this, and I've been taught to train so that the techniques I learn are second nature, but I'm still not sure. I was taught to train with a calm, focused attitude instead of relying on anger so I can fight back even when I'm scared.

Physically, I'm pretty good. I'm 5'7, 165 pounds but not fat, quite muscular, have a lot of endurance, and am fairly strong, but even then, I'd still be scared. I'm sure I could get away, but a part of me would be disappointed if I didn't kick my assaulter's Edward. I know the point is not to make it look like Street Fighter, but I am young and have too much pride sometimes, so I like to show people that just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I'm helpless.

I would probably do a mix of A and B. I would probably call the police first (or get someone else to), and then I would go and try to get the person being attacked away from the attacker. If getting that person to safety would mean that I would possibly have to fight the attacker myself, I would deal with the consequences (but I do always make sure to carry a bottle of pepper spray and a pretty large pocket knife in my purse in case I get attacked). I have a bad tendency to leap with out thinking when I see someone in trouble. >>

Call the police, then draw my own gun and inform the attacker in a loud voice that I have a gun trained on them.

If they are sane and rational, they will stop the attack and put their hands up. If they turn to attack me, I already have my gun out and I'm an excellent shot with a lot of training time.

Citizen's arrests are allowed in my state, and a victim of a violent attack doesn't have time to wait for the police to arrive.

Oh and I have another question... how many of you carry a weapon with you?
It can be any weapon ranging from a gun to pepper spray or anything like that and does it make you feel a lot more secure when you're outside?

Cle0p@tra wrote:Oh and I have another question... how many of you carry a weapon with you?
It can be any weapon ranging from a gun to pepper spray or anything like that and does it make you feel a lot more secure when you're outside?

I usually carry pepper spray and at least two pocket knives (one with a two inch blade, the other with a four inch blade). Those things usually only make me feel more secure when I am walking around at night.

I would call the police, but not help, because let's face it: I'm a 5'2" girl who has never been in a fight, never taken any self defense and would get her Edward kicked easily.
I think helping is stupid since it's a risk to yourself: it's bad enough someone else has gotten hurt so adding youserlf to the count in stupid.

Since I kinda suck at fighting, I would probably call the cops, then snap a quick picture of the attacker with my cellphone (if I had one ), then observe from a distance. If the guy pulled a knife on the victim, I might yell to try and distract them (again, I'd be watching from a distance. I'm not in the best shape, but I can run like hell if I have to).

It's weird - I just watched an episode of the show What Would You Do, and thought about this thread.

Basically, the show puts unsuspecting people in different outlandish situations and watches how they'd react.

One of the situations was that a group of three teens were beating up a Mexican man, for being Mexican, and calling him racial slurs, while telling him to go back where he belongs. Now, this was all choreographed and fake, but none of the passerbys knew.

The show, beforehand, introduced us to a Mexican man, whose brother was killed in a similar hate crime, by getting beaten with a bat, in broad daylight.

I don't remember the exact amount, but a signficant, and I think majority, number of people walked by, watched, and did nothing.
While there were others who did call the police, there were people that actually got involved, brave enough to stand up to the teens.

One such person was a 5'4 woman. She was willing to stand up to the men, and tell them they need to stop and leave, without backing down - until they left.

Honestly, I think it's sad that a lot of people aren't brave enough to put someonelse's health and well being, ahead of their own. Yes, you're scared. You consider they might turn on you.
If the situation might necessitate you to use physical force, if you're capable, so what if there might be legal reprecussions? Are you really going to weigh the importance of a fine or court fees or even jail time over the importance of saving a life or overall health?

Even if you're small, after calling the police, you can still be useful. You can try to distract them from their act. Tell them to back down. Try to talk them out of it. Or, you could simply let them know that you've already called the police, and they're currently on their way, and scare them into stopping their assualt.

Joucelin Hades wrote:Since I kinda suck at fighting, I would probably call the cops, then snap a quick picture of the attacker with my cellphone (if I had one ), then observe from a distance. If the guy pulled a knife on the victim, I might yell to try and distract them (again, I'd be watching from a distance. I'm not in the best shape, but I can run like hell if I have to).

See, you have the right idea.
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Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:I would call the police, but not help, because let's face it: I'm a 5'2" girl who has never been in a fight, never taken any self defense and would get her Edward kicked easily.
I think helping is stupid since it's a risk to yourself: it's bad enough someone else has gotten hurt so adding youserlf to the count in stupid.

So, you think the possibility that you could risk yourself by helping, and more than one person could then possibly get hurt, is stupid . . . compared to the possibility that one person, the victim, could get killed or hurt to the point of near death because you didn't try to give some sort of help, till the cops of arrive?

Because two people getting slightly or moderately injured is worse than one person getting significantly injured or even killed?

At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

This really makes me sad. Selfishness and cowardice at its finest.

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Loosecannon wrote:

Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:I would call the police, but not help, because let's face it: I'm a 5'2" girl who has never been in a fight, never taken any self defense and would get her Edward kicked easily.
I think helping is stupid since it's a risk to yourself: it's bad enough someone else has gotten hurt so adding youserlf to the count in stupid.

So, you think the possibility that you could risk yourself by helping, and more than one person could then possibly get hurt, is stupid . . . compared to the possibility that one person, the victim, could get killed or hurt to the point of near death because you didn't try to give some sort of help, till the cops of arrive?

Because two people getting slightly or moderately injured is worse than one person getting significantly injured or even killed?

At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

This really makes me sad. Selfishness and cowardice at its finest.

Excuse me? She’s a coward because she values her own life?
That’s not being a coward, that’s having common sense.

An attack is potentially dangerous. They could be armed, and if they’re already attacking someone else who’s to say they wouldn’t just turn around and go for you as well? Nothing. When you’re lying in a pool of your own blood, the guy you wanted to save is dead, the attacker has run off, do you think it really matters that you wanted to do the “heroic” thing?

Dudette said she has no fighting skills, she isn’t a trained professional. She has nothing that could give her an advantage, or even things up. Calling the cops is the smart thing to do. A group of trained professionals kitted out in protective gear and ready with weapons. Even they say don’t get involved.

Okay fine, your guilt wouldn’t let you just stand there and watch. But don’t tsk at someone else because they’d do it a different way.

No, because not all the things you could do to help, put your life at too much risk.

At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned that there are things you can do even if you don't fight or don't even stand a chance.
Fighting skills doesn't matter, that's nowhere near the only way someone can help.

In the show, one of the people that watched the choreographed attack was a group of four or five people, friends, coming out of a store.
After the producers revealed themselves, they walked away with shame.

The reason they didn't help was because they were afraid.
However, they were in a group. Even if they're fearing for their life, that's cowardice. Because, there's safety in numbers. They weren't putting themselves at too much risk, when they have more manpower.

In the same sense, when you're trying to talk someone into stopping, through various ways, you aren't putting yourself too much as risk.

I already acknowledged you should call the cops first. In the meantime, why not distract them? Tell them they need to stop because you called the cops a couple of minutes ago? I'll tsk someone when they decide to call 911, and give no help at all, when there are ways they can help that doesn't conflict with their self-preservation. Sh!t, I'll tsk someone when they say it's stupid to help, because more than one person might end up getting hurt.

Please read my full post next time you decide to respond.

Loosecannon wrote:No, because not all the things you could do to help, put your life at too much risk.

At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned that there are things you can do even if you don't fight or don't even stand a chance.
Fighting skills doesn't matter, that's nowhere near the only way someone can help.

And to that, I quote myself
[qute]They could be armed, and if they’re already attacking someone else who’s to say they wouldn’t just turn around and go for you as well?[/quote]
The attacker is already wailing on someone else, what makes you think they can be reasoned with?

In the show, one of the people that watched the choreographed attack was a group of four or five people, friends, coming out of a store.
After the producers revealed themselves, they walked away with shame.

The reason they didn't help was because they were afraid.
However, they were in a group. Even if they're fearing for their life, that's cowardice. Because, there's safety in numbers. They weren't putting themselves at too much risk, when they have more manpower.

But I’m not talking about the group, I was defending Pink Mouse Dudette.

I already acknowledged you should call the cops first. In the meantime, why not distract them? Tell them they need to stop because you called the cops a couple of minutes ago? I'll tsk someone when they decide to call 911, and give no help at all, when there are ways they can help that doesn't conflict with their self-preservation. Sh!t

1. You don’t know how they’ll react to you tell them you’ve called the cops. They could get scared and run away, but they could also get pissed and go for you.
2. Calling 911 is giving help. It’s the best possible method of help you can give!
3. I hate to sound mean but most people pride their life over that of a total strangers. That does not make them a bad person.

I'll tsk someone when they say it's stupid to help, because more than one person might end up getting hurt.

And what if you are one of those people?

Please read my full post next time you decide to respond.

*Sigh* Hey buddy, I did. I just don’t agree with what you’re saying.

See, I would call 911, but besides that I don't think I could do much. Maybe if I'm at a distance where I can't be seen I'd throw a rock to signal someone was there and make a noise to freak em out, but I'm 15 with no fighting skills. Hell if there's a knife or gun, by getting myself directly involved I may just make it worse because the assailant's fight or flight instinct will kick in.

And to that, I quote myself

They could be armed, and if they’re already attacking someone else who’s to say they wouldn’t just turn around and go for you as well?

The attacker is already wailing on someone else, what makes you think they can be reasoned with?

They don't necessarily need to be reasoned with, but distracted a little till the police come.
Either way, reasoning with them is possible. Or else, why would cops have hostage negotiaters and the like?

In terms of your quote, simply watching from a distance puts you at risk, since you're a witness.
Yet, a lot of people actually do that. Talking to them from a shorter distance, even behind cover, puts yourself at still about the same amount of risk as watching.

Either way, again, getting close or putting yourself at risk isn't the only way you can help.

At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

I keep quoting this because if you're looking for someone more capable, you aren't putting yourself at risk. And, you've already seemed to note people love their own life so fcking much. Capable could mean a group of people. Since alot of people carry fire arms these days(I postulate), capable could also include someone with a gun.

But I’m not talking about the group, I was defending Pink Mouse Dudette.

Yeah, my point was that though fearing for your life is justified, it still doesn't mean ones not a coward.

1. You don’t know how they’ll react to you tell them you’ve called the cops. They could get scared and run away, but they could also get pissed and go for you.
2. Calling 911 is giving help. It’s the best possible method of help you can give!
3. I hate to sound mean but most people pride their life over that of a total strangers. That does not make them a bad person.

1. So you're going to risk more possibly fatal damage to a person, by not taking the risk to tell them that the cops are on their way from a distance, because they might get mad? Is this person in question incapable of running or something in the event that that happens?
2. Yeah, I already noted that. Though, in the time it takes for an Ambulance and police to arrive, the victim could become hurt beyond recovery.
3. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them a coward if they can't give help that doesn't put their life at too much risk, unless the person always wants to assume that the Criminal doesn't mind jail time, will go after them, has a gun, and has a reason to beat the person up instead of hurting them with the gun.

And what if you are one of those people?

I'd rather have two people injured, and able to recover, than one person unharmed and one person dead.
Even at the risk of more than one person dying. People recover from injuries, but generally not death.

*Sigh* Hey buddy, I did. I just don’t agree with what you’re saying.

It kind of seemed like you didn't since you said Dudette didn't have anything that "could even things up", despite the fact I noted that there are a variety of ways she can give help and even things up.
On the tv show, one old guy went and got this big swole body builder to confront and stop the three smaller men who were pretending to beat up the mexican guy. Is that so hard?

Loosecannon wrote:They don't necessarily need to be reasoned with, but distracted a little till the police come.
Either way, reasoning with them is possible. Or else, why would cops have hostage negotiaters and the like?

And those people are trained. To know how to keep the person calm and when it's the right time to negotiate. A normal civilian does not have that kid of knowledge or training, and usually even police negotiators have backup with weapons for when things start to go sour.

In terms of your quote, simply watching from a distance puts you at risk, since you're a witness.
Yet, a lot of people actually do that. Talking to them from a shorter distance, even behind cover, puts yourself at still about the same amount of risk as watching.

How? When you're far away watching, the attacker might not even be aware of your presence, there's more space between you so you have more chance of escape. When you're hiding behind something, near them, the attacker could easily approach you, and without a weapon you’re a sitting duck.

Either way, again, getting close or putting yourself at risk isn't the only way you can help.
At the very least, you could go look for someone more capable. You could even simply try to talk them out of it from a distance or distract them.

I keep quoting this because if you're looking for someone more capable, you aren't putting yourself at risk. And, you've already seemed to note people love their own life so fcking much. Capable could mean a group of people. Since alot of people carry fire arms these days(I postulate), capable could also include someone with a gun.

And what if no one wants to help? Regardless if that makes them cowards or not, you have to admit most people will not get involved any more than calling the police.

Yeah, my point was that though fearing for your life is justified, it still doesn't mean ones not a coward.

Well then I guess every normal person is a coward. Because we want to live. Or think gambling our lives on what could be a deadly situation isn’t worth it. I’ll gladly be a coward, but at least I’ll be one with common sense who knows when to keep her head.

1. So you're going to risk more possibly fatal damage to a person, by not taking the risk to tell them that the cops are on their way from a distance, because they might get mad? Is this person in question incapable of running or something in the event that that happens?

I was trying to say you can’t predict their moves.
And at least when you’ve called 911/999 help is definitely on the way, people will be coming to help that person soon. The attacker might not get away, and even if he does you can describe him to the police and give a witness’s account of the attack. Certainly wouldn’t be able to do that if you were dead.

2. Yeah, I already noted that. Though, in the time it takes for an Ambulance and police to arrive, the victim could become hurt beyond recovery.

And that would be a terrible thing, but it wouldn’t be the person’s fault. They helped as much as they could.

3. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them a coward if they can't give help that doesn't put their life at too much risk, unless the person always wants to assume that the Criminal doesn't mind jail time, will go after them, has a gun, and has a reason to beat the person up instead of hurting them with the gun.

At too much risk? You just said the victim could possibly be dying. Applied to anyone, that sounds like quite a big risk.

I'd rather have two people injured, and able to recover, than one person unharmed and one person dead.
Even at the risk of more than one person dying. People recover from injuries, but generally not death.

And that’s a really big shame, but it wouldn’t be the person’s fault. It would be the attackers. Unless you were a doctor-policeman with a gun/taser and a first aid kit on you, there would be little you could do to stop the attacker and help the victim. For all you know by the time you there their wounds were too severe to help with anyway.

It kind of seemed like you didn't since you said Dudette didn't have anything that "could even things up", despite the fact I noted that there are a variety of ways she can give help and even things up.

I don’t count distracting the attacker, or trying to talk to them, as evening things out. If you have something like a gun or training in self-defence, if the guy goes for you you can take a shot at him or at least block his attacks. You’re protecting yourself, as well as slowing him down. With trying to distract them or talking them out of it, you really don’t.


Let me ask you this question then. If it was late at night, about the time when people start going to bed, and as you were walking home you saw someone’s house on fire and a person clearly stuck in a room on the second level. After you call 911, would you run into the house and try to help them? If so, would you expect other people to do the same in that situation?

It depends on the attacker.

If he had a gun, I'd obviously won't attack him unless he didn't see me. Then I would just run up to him and topple him over, probably making him drop the gun. If he didn't drop the gun then I'd grab it or the person who is getting attacked will try to grab it.
If he had a gun and saw me while trying to attack the person, I'd hide somewhere safe though a place where I could still see them and phone the police.

If he was using a knife, I'd try to hurry and topple him over in any way I can. I'd probably just put my big Edward coat over his head so that he can't see, and let me and the other dude run away while he's blind.

If he was using his hands, I would try to defend the dude. It's not like I'll die or something from a punch.

^ I don't know about sneaking up behind the attacker considering the fact that your clothes and shoes WILL make noise even if you don't want them to. Also, the attackee will probably try to get his attention off of themselves and will point you out...

Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:^ I don't know about sneaking up behind the attacker considering the fact that your clothes and shoes WILL make noise even if you don't want them to. Also, the attackee will probably try to get his attention off of themselves and will point you out...

D: do you really think the victim will do such a mean thing like that when I'm trying to help them?

And to be honest my shoes & clothes don't make noises. If I'm wearing a pair that does I'll just run up to them before they have a chance to look back.

...maybe my heroic tactic is just bad >_>

phantomkirby wrote:

Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:^ I don't know about sneaking up behind the attacker considering the fact that your clothes and shoes WILL make noise even if you don't want them to. Also, the attackee will probably try to get his attention off of themselves and will point you out...

D: do you really think the victim will do such a mean thing like that when I'm trying to help them?

And to be honest my shoes & clothes don't make noises. If I'm wearing a pair that does I'll just run up to them before they have a chance to look back.

...maybe my heroic tactic is just bad >_>

It's not really mean, just self preservation. You would happen to be a distraction away from the person being attacked.

Self preservation. If I was being threatened with a knife or gun I would do anything to get the person's attention away from me, even if it meant putting someone else in danger. You're scared, your adrenaline is running high and survival instinct kicks in. *shrugs*

TrippedUp wrote:It's not really mean, just self preservation. You would happen to be a distraction away from the person being attacked.

Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:Self preservation. If I was being threatened with a knife or gun I would do anything to get the person's attention away from me, even if it meant putting someone else in danger. You're scared, your adrenaline is running high and survival instinct kicks in. *shrugs*

I forgot to type this ----> /sarcasm

phantomkirby wrote:

TrippedUp wrote:It's not really mean, just self preservation. You would happen to be a distraction away from the person being attacked.

Pink Mouse Dudette wrote:Self preservation. If I was being threatened with a knife or gun I would do anything to get the person's attention away from me, even if it meant putting someone else in danger. You're scared, your adrenaline is running high and survival instinct kicks in. *shrugs*

I forgot to type this ----> /sarcasm

Ah.

Honestly this whole I would do this and that is BS. Adrenaline and fear fucks with your head.