twilighterheart wrote:

LaLlama wrote:I've heard of that book. Kinda reamains me of The Matrix, an illusional prison for the human mind without the human actually knowing its traped. Lead me to various conspiracies that convinced me that the Earth was nothing but a giant farm house and the confinment was inhabited by brainless oaves concerned with nothing but NFL, giant cars, and VERY LARGE human female breasts. The worst being the ones between 12-18 who's only brain funtion is MYSACE, texting, trendy mainstream music and clothing, and "ZOMG!!! DID U LIEK HERE OF THE IPHONEZZ???!!! lololollollolzzzz I WANT 2 GET SO I CAN FIT IN THE SOCIAL DENAMENATOR!!!!!" They tell me it isn't real, they tell me not to be concerned with that stuff and I should be worried about the mentioned in the lost sentence (God forbid). I pray everyday that the world described by Goarge Orwell isn't real, but my prayers I fear, may be futile.

I personally believe it's much worse then anything we truly can ever know about. The ancients knew about the ka (soul) and ba (spirit) and fought against the darkness of our true slavery of the mind. Maybe our bas are corrupted and the overloads of this world are no better off then us. The matrix of this timeline's original corrupters are long gone, but not their lowly servants, who know no better ways of running things. So few kas have escaped it's sad, the illusions seen after death is yet other illusions to further trap them to this dimension and timeline that they have know other choice but to be reborn and repeat living in spiritual darkness for an other life cycle and never getting that much needed info of past lives and trying at least to move on from this prison planet.

Those that made this into a hellhole didn't create it but only took it over in all ways and in everything. They have been at this for so long that the only real fear they have is for the human race to awoken to the aweful truth and choose to do something about it.

I've heard of this stuf before: mental slavery, rencarnation, higher conscience. These things don't even concern most of the human population, especially in this age of cars, technology, sports, and mainstream media. I was told the search for truth wasn't going to be easy. They were right, I've lost all connection to my age group, with thier ipods, hoodies, and loud Lil Wayne music. Sometimes I wish I could be an unconcern cretin who lives in virtual materialistic reality, cause mine is indeed a lonely one. BTW, do you guys have a page were I can discuss supernatural and paranormal topics?

A brilliant book far ahead of its time warning of impending Government centralization and totalitarianism. Though Huxley's A Brave New World is somewhat humorous compared to 1984, both reveal a very telling prediction concerning the actions of governmental institutions unrestrained from the ckecks and balances which are the hallmarks of a free republic.

While I cannot say much for Orwell's eloquence, he was a social prophet with a not too surprsing message. That in government, rather than things heading toward a state of disorder and decay as occurs in most things, bureaucratic power becomes more ubiquitous over time, and leads to the consolidation of rights under the arbitrary group of self-annointed utopianists. Rather than heading toward disorder, the planned society like that described in 1984, if unchecked, leads to the strongest and most intollerable sense of order immaginable: control. I highly recommend 1984, Animal Farm, A Brave New World, and The Island to any who cherish liberty and are suspicious of the rule of the 'wise few.' All of these books are excellent ficitonal accounts of a world which could be ours unless we stop it.

InLoveWithHistory wrote:I highly recommend 1984, Animal Farm, A Brave New World, and The Island to any who cherish liberty and are suspicious of the rule of the 'wise few.' All of these books are excellent ficitonal accounts of a world which could be ours unless we stop it.

I thought that already happened when the king thought to be divine was worshipped and the his subjects had to do whatever he said? Anyways, I love Thomas Paine's Common Sense because it just says what's so wrong with those types of systems of goverments.

twilighterheart wrote:

InLoveWithHistory wrote:I highly recommend 1984, Animal Farm, A Brave New World, and The Island to any who cherish liberty and are suspicious of the rule of the 'wise few.' All of these books are excellent ficitonal accounts of a world which could be ours unless we stop it.

I thought that already happened when the king thought to be divine was worshipped and the his subjects had to do whatever he said? Anyways, I love Thomas Paine's Common Sense because it just says what's so wrong with those types of systems of goverments.

I'll try to keep this short and sweet, especially since I have a habit of unintentionally making essays out of my posts. You make a great observation! Loosely speaking, you're correct when you mention the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings. Although, you've been so vague that you'll forgive me if I have trouble determining whether your talking about the Pharoah of anitquity (who was thought to be divine. Or perhaps you mean the medieval phenomenon of the king (not being worshiped, but obeyed, accountable only to the Pope, and later, only to God.) Or you're referring to some other thing.

In any case, no matter which partricular you wanted me to consider, your general idea is good. You are recognizing an illegitimate claim to power based on an abuse of religion rather than a system of checks and balances which limit a ruler's influence, such as that found in democracies and republics. When you say "I thought that only happened when the king..." it is a sad thing to say that it still happens, but under a different banner. In the 21st century, the notion of the divine right of kings is laughable to us moderns. Yet standards just as arbitrary exist today in a different guise. Rather than cloking themselves in the right to rule by the divine right of kings, modern utopianists style themselves, not as agents of religion, but agents of social change. The people addressed at length in A Brave New World and 1984 were not kings, but they did comprise an oligrachy based on the arbitrary power of kings, rather than a free society.